Stone Tiger Xingyi had a post about some of the core questions regarding the art of Xingyiquan. An excerpt is below. The full post may be read here.
What is the Truth?
Like many people know, I get a deep, perverse pleasure in asking the
question "Why?" In that one word is the stumbling block for most belief
systems and methods of practice. I know it's not mature of me, but
sometimes I can't help myself when someone starts to talk about
something that is outlandish or not based in reality. I also understand
that my love of that question can make me come across very poorly to
some people, especially those who I question. I come across very brash
and judgemental, but most of the time I just don't care enough to
explain what I mean on a deep level (I know that sounds terrible) But
maybe I can shed some light on my personal views and the reasons for
I would like to start by sharing a little about my martial journey that I
haven't shared before. Several years ago I felt totally lost and had
no idea where to go as far as the direction of my training. I have been
lucky enough to meet and train with several amazing masters of Xingyi,
but not one of them shared the same beliefs on training or what Xingyi
was actually for. Each master held a different origin story to be true,
each one believed that the art evolved differently, and each saw a
different goal for high level practitioners. So while I was lucky to
train with them, this left me deeply confused at the same time. Where
did Xingyi come from? What was its original purpose? What is high
level? So after a lot of soul searching and coming very close to
quitting due to frustration, I decided to use the tools at my disposal
and proven methods to see what I could learn about my favorite martial
art. Since I'm not the most learned person I was left with simple yet
irrefutable techniques. I decided to base my research off of the
scientific method of hypothosis, experimentation and conclusion, the
technique of "Occams' Razor" as well as a method from our legal system,
namely "Its not what you know, its what you can prove" Now obviously
that is a quote from a movie, but its sums up very well how we as
Westerners fuction and understand things. And that is the only way I
will ever understand things, no one can honestly say that they
completely think and understand another culture without having lived in
it for many years, so I would have to make do.
So having said this, nothing I say in this article is meant to insult or
degrade anyone's personal beliefs, but I am simply putting out the
plain facts about Xingyi that can be proven easily. I will speak in
general terms, but please don't take that as an attack, its not meant to
be. But really, if writing about my research bothers people, they are
forgetting a great quote from Aristotle "The mark of a great mind is
being able to entertain an idea without accepting it" So I hope that I
get the chance to share this with many great minds in the hopes of
starting a positive discussion.
Now that the disclaimer is out of the way, lets speak honestly and
bluntly. Xingyi is an amazing art with a world full of potential, but
it's dying. There is no sugar coating it, it's simply true. I believe
the reason for this is that Xingyi teachers are so far scattered and
when we meet most of the time we can't agree on simple practices. How
can we ever work as a whole to propegate our art? We can't.
be a core of common knowledge and understanding for Xingyi
practitioners so we can present a united front to the world. We all
must work together in the future, the old method of the wandering
teacher doesn't work on a global scale. Often times in the past it was
only effective in a single province, not even across the whole of China,
so how can it work across the world?
Where to start? For me, that was easy. I wanted to learn the most logical and provable origins of Xingyi.
The next question is "What was considered good Xingyi 200 years ago?"
The 3rd question "What is High Level?"