I would chalk it up to his probably encountering a spear infrequently, if ever; while he's opponent probably has practice matches with swordsmen all of the time.
I think it's a kendo thing to carry on with the attack - in normal matches, many strikes that hit are not counted as points unless they are decisive in the right way, so they carry on regardless.
I was actually surprised that the spearman didn't do better - they are normally said to have a 3:1 advantage. I guess that if your opponent is ignoring disabling hits it creates a somewhat unreal situation.
While the spear player had the talent of a hack, the skill of the swordsman is quite questionable. I have seen better point to edge to point actions between sabre fencers than this swordsman and spear player. ///There is a Chinese martial arts rule that states that the true master never hold back on their skills in matches. But they do tone down the the strength of their movements. # If one wants to be respected in their arena, it is important to know the entire set of rules for that terrain and the history behind it. Then assess whether one's opposition is willing to abide by the rules and regulations.
O I missed this interesting video. My opinion is that the only hope for the sword-man is to block and speedily move in to disarm the spear-man by sliding his sword forward along the shaft. The SM did it once (only). Mifune ToshirÅ's movies should have lots of this move.
...that depends on skill, the only chance for the swordsman is to take advantage of his opponent's forward thrust (come from an attack - of course, knowing the swordsman's intention, a faked forward thrust may be employed... etc). And of course, it depends on skillful sliding up, not to alert the spearsman of his intention (otherwise, he will quickly pull back his spear to block and counter attack etc).
PS: Unfortunately a Kendo-man is conditioned to use strikes instead of thrust (which is allowed only on throat attack, I was told), which technique is needed for sliding up (Chinese swordsmanship will be quite different..:):)
it is really anoing that swordsman ignore stabbing and continue to attack
ReplyDeleteHe didn't fare very well, did he?
ReplyDeleteI would chalk it up to his probably encountering a spear infrequently, if ever; while he's opponent probably has practice matches with swordsmen all of the time.
I think it's a kendo thing to carry on with the attack - in normal matches, many strikes that hit are not counted as points unless they are decisive in the right way, so they carry on regardless.
ReplyDeleteI was actually surprised that the spearman didn't do better - they are normally said to have a 3:1 advantage. I guess that if your opponent is ignoring disabling hits it creates a somewhat unreal situation.
A key difference between a contest with rules and the real thing.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever read this post"
http://cookdingskitchen.blogspot.com/2008/12/optimization-and-martial-arts.html
Hmmm, interesting....but questionable.
ReplyDeleteWhile the spear player had the talent of a hack, the skill of the swordsman is quite questionable. I have seen better point to edge to point actions between sabre fencers than this swordsman and spear player. ///There is a Chinese martial arts rule that states that the true master never hold back on their skills in matches. But they do tone down the the strength of their movements. # If one wants to be respected in their arena, it is important to know the entire set of rules for that terrain and the history behind it. Then assess whether one's opposition is willing to abide by the rules and regulations.
ReplyDeleteO I missed this interesting video. My opinion is that the only hope for the sword-man is to block and speedily move in to disarm the spear-man by sliding his sword forward along the shaft. The SM did it once (only). Mifune ToshirÅ's movies should have lots of this move.
ReplyDelete... and if the spearman can skillfully shorten his grip, he can maintain the advantage... maybe.
ReplyDeleteAn interesting problem to solve in real time.
...that depends on skill, the only chance for the swordsman is to take advantage of his opponent's forward thrust (come from an attack - of course, knowing the swordsman's intention, a faked forward thrust may be employed... etc). And of course, it depends on skillful sliding up, not to alert the spearsman of his intention (otherwise, he will quickly pull back his spear to block and counter attack etc).
ReplyDeletePS: Unfortunately a Kendo-man is conditioned to use strikes instead of thrust (which is allowed only on throat attack, I was told), which technique is needed for sliding up (Chinese swordsmanship will be quite different..:):)
I think the swordsman is very constrained by the rules.
ReplyDeleteHere are some more Kendo videos, including a little naginata:
http://cookdingskitchen.blogspot.com/2010/03/kendo-videos.html