tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post4108122706011593468..comments2024-02-14T07:29:25.919-05:00Comments on Cook Ding's Kitchen: How to Master a Martial ArtRick Matzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09699550034693340637noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post-38928957220004996702023-12-31T11:40:52.629-05:002023-12-31T11:40:52.629-05:00Confucius had 2 main disciples, one advocated that...Confucius had 2 main disciples, one advocated that nature or talent was was important, the other said that training or work, was more important, the two ideas were reconciled about 2000 years ago. Cool that we are still reading about this. The 10,000 hour idea, is predicated on very specific work, not just checking the box mentality that passes for academia today. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post-47382466584319115702013-06-04T13:17:55.105-04:002013-06-04T13:17:55.105-04:00Without natural talent and a good teacher, even wi...Without natural talent and a good teacher, even with the 10,000 hours of training, I think your results will be less than mastery.<br /><br />It ALL has to come together to reach the pinnacle in any endeavor.Rick Matzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09699550034693340637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post-63836099775750934412013-06-04T11:21:07.707-04:002013-06-04T11:21:07.707-04:00Grandin stakes her counter-point on the supposed p...Grandin stakes her counter-point on the supposed popular interpretation that "anyone can master X" according to the 10,000 hour rule, no matter what biology as to say about it. I respectfully half-disagree with her.<br /> <br />When we hear that statement made what we are hearing is not a magical belief that 10,000 hours will transform someone into a Gates, Da Vinci, or Jordan regardless of any biological disability. But rather, we the reader are intended to take that as a given. It just simpler than making the modifying caveat "anyone not born with a preventative disability..." which would, according to her explanation, remove Grandin's objection to this rule. <br /><br />We all interpret life through our unique lenses, and while I have a huge amount of respect for Dr. Grandin I think her own lens is causing her to miss the forest for the trees.<br /><br /><br />-BrettThe Strongest Karatehttp://www.kyokushinblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post-12340961293072986792013-06-01T08:31:42.776-04:002013-06-01T08:31:42.776-04:00It's all too easy focus on the simple thing, r...It's all too easy focus on the simple thing, racking up numbers, and ignore the rest.Rick Matzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09699550034693340637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post-49190958899012753342013-06-01T05:05:04.524-04:002013-06-01T05:05:04.524-04:00The x-hours rule is a good subject matter for popu...The x-hours rule is a good subject matter for popular writers, and a good motivational saying. I buy into its motivational effects. Though any reasonable man knows that it all depends on how you define as "having mastered" and what is your objective. I was told some Harvard MBAs got their business busted. And many an old folk considers himself having mastered their martial art and lives healthily, happily and some even be able to defend himself in incidental push/pull situations. Both having gone through the x-hours regime. To the former, I'll say" tough luck", to the latter, I'll say "good work".Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15867403006412320812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post-77316611834325831522013-05-31T15:04:36.105-04:002013-05-31T15:04:36.105-04:00Joseph, thanks for stopping by and leaving comment...Joseph, thanks for stopping by and leaving comments.<br /><br />I think Dr Grandin nails it in saying that the 10,000 hour rule is often misinterpreted. I don't think that repeating your first lesson 10,000 times will make you a maestro.Rick Matzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09699550034693340637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post-81098959396110252012013-05-31T14:43:13.273-04:002013-05-31T14:43:13.273-04:00In my experience, practicing a new skill means lea...In my experience, practicing a new skill means leaving some portion of what I'm doing to "auto-pilot" while focusing attention on an aspect that you are working to improve. The eventual goal is to have the entire new skill fully integrated: it's available without thought; your focus can be elsewhere because the rest of your body knows "I've got this."<br /><br />10k hours may well be enough to fully integrate what you're doing, but that won't make it optimal or right. I might have forgotten the lesson from aikido studies if I hadn't just started learning to play the mandolin from scratch one year ago. So many details to get right... the left hand finger positions on the fret board, the right hand keeping rhythm and finding the right strings, ... so many things to get right... A teacher is definitely helpful in showing me where I need to put my attention to make improvements before the wrong way is integrated.<br /><br />Good post--thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06639576996810057526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13961468.post-30368651232555841962013-05-31T14:34:47.629-04:002013-05-31T14:34:47.629-04:00Interesting post! My interpretation / experience h...Interesting post! My interpretation / experience has been that integrating a new physical skill takes whatever number of hours, where "physical skill" generally means some kind of complex, previously unnatural sequence, and "integrating" means making reaching the point that conscious attention is not required to execute it--you can be thinking about other things or focused elsewhere.<br /><br />I might have forgotten about that experience learning aikido if I hadn't started learning to play the mandolin a year ago from scratch... Now I'm almost comfortable with the basics :-)<br /><br />10,000 hours will certainly get you comfortable doing something, but if you don't know where to apply your attention to correct things, you'll have completely integrated something substandard or wrong--and maybe have made it difficult to correct in the future.<br /><br />Thanks for the post!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06639576996810057526noreply@blogger.com